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By Dennis Fisher
January 7, 2003

Scott Charney has been on the hot seat ever since he joined Microsoft
Corp. last year as the software giant's chief security strategist. He
arrived in Redmond, Wash., four months after Bill Gates sent out his
famous memo outlining the company's new Trustworthy Computing
initiative and a newfound commitment to security. He is not only the
public face of that effort but also the man who is ultimately
responsible for carrying out Gates' instructions regarding security.
Charney talked to eWEEK Senior Editor Dennis Fisher recently about the
progress Microsoft has made in the last year and what lies ahead for
Trustworthy Computing.

eWEEK: How do you think the company has done as far as Trustworthy
Computing is concerned in the last year?

Charney: In some ways, I think we've made great progress. But then I
look at it as a continuum, and it seems like we've made very small
steps on a very long road. Some of the steps have been important ones.
Before Trustworthy Computing, the delaying of products because of
security concerns was not common practice at Microsoft—or in the
industry, for that matter. It's an organizational change. Trustworthy
Computing is a long-term effort, and some of the benefits have not yet
been realized in the market.

eWEEK: How so?

Charney: Well, Windows .Net Server [2003] hasn't been released yet,
but a lot of the work we've done in the security push will be evident
in that release. We're doing a lot of after-action efforts where we
look at things like whether the vulnerabilities we found in the
security push are unique to a product or more widespread. We will
continue the push constantly on every new product that we release.
Overall, I'm very pleased, but we still have a long way to go.

eWEEK: What other elements of Trustworthy Computing are you working
on?

Charney: One of things I'm looking at is, how do you come up with an
objective measure of the security of a product? Our chief privacy
officer, Richard Purcell, has developed this tool called the Privacy
Health Index to assess the performance of each application. But when
you think about trying to apply that to security, it gets kind of
fuzzy. The questions we ask as part of the privacy index are binary,
yes or no. But if you ask a developer if he did a security code review
and he says yes, what does that mean? It's a really important thing.
We're struggling to find the right system.

eWEEK: What are some of the things that you'd like to address in the
coming year?

Charney: I think it's important to [do the security] push on products
that are taking on new roles in the marketplace, things like instant
messaging and handhelds. We need to get ahead of the curve to make
sure that we're sensitive to how the technology's being used. We need
to continue to make progress on Palladium. Our goal is making security
easier to use. Think about how difficult it is to manage security. The
technology has proliferated much faster than the training has. We need
to analyze the training program, too. It's amazing how many people who
have computer science degrees have no security training.

eWEEK: Do you think the idea of improving security has really taken
hold inside the company?

Charney: I do. The number of e-mails that I see with people raising
security issues is huge. That didn't happen before. The cultural
change is very marked and very real.

eWEEK: You've talked a lot about the security training that all of
Microsoft's developers went through. Is that something that will be
ongoing in the future?

Charney: Definitely. There's going to be continuous training. We're
looking at ways to improve it and come up with an agenda for
continuous professional growth.

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